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		<title>Conversation aggregators vs. social network aggegators</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently posted about web 2.5, and since that time have been diving into two sites that attempt to do this. The first is friendfeed, I&#8217;ve commented about it before. It&#8217;s overall a great site, however the community is still growing on it, and most of my personal friends are not on there, only those [...]]]></description>
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<p>I recently posted about web 2.5, and since that time have been diving into two sites that attempt to do this. The first is <a href="http://www.friendfeed.com" target="_blank">friendfeed</a>, I&#8217;ve commented about it before. It&#8217;s overall a great site, however the community is still growing on it, and most of my personal friends are not on there, only those that I follow and interact with in a tech or professional community. And there&#8217;s the ability to go through and create an imaginary personality for friends, but for me that could take days, and while its still tempting I can&#8217;t quite commit that strongly. Yeah friend feed is great, but I find myself using it more for having a conversation with whoever is there, rather than using it to follow individual people.</p>
<p>With the emergence of rooms in <a href="http://www.friendfeed.com" target="_blank">friendfeed</a> it seems they realize its more about being able to have a conversation around a similar topic than it is to track individual people.</p>
<p>However it seems that <a href="http://www.socialthing.com" target="_blank">socialthing</a>, which I recently got access to, thanks <a href="http://www.twitter.com/socialthing" target="_blank">socialthing</a> team, is a slightly better aggregator at least for my demographic. Friendfeed works well for those that use blogs, google reader, photo albums and the like. But friendfeed is seriously lacking on the facebook front, meanwhile socialthing is accomplishing this very well. While I&#8217;m not sure which one I&#8217;ll be engaged more in, in the coming weeks though I imagine it will depend on the purpose.</p>
<p>Friendfeed works for following information about tech, news, or similar broad topics. Socialthing works for keeping up with friends, when they&#8217;ve uploaded pictures from last friday night, or when that girl you have a crush on in high school breaks up with a long-term boyfriend and needs a rebound, and the like. I&#8217;m not sure how friendfeed would work if they did just enable the same time of features for facebook, I imagine it might not catch as right now its about conversations more than it is a singular feed. Socialthing has a chance to win this one, but you really need to have more than 10 services you connect to.</p>
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		<title>Site Review: Friendfeed</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been a lot of buzz in the valley lately around this very small startup, that has a few pretty heavy hitters. Between the four founders they have worked on nearly all of the Google products so many know and love, with the exception of search. Paul Bucheit, is even responsible for Google&#8217;s current motto, [...]]]></description>
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<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of buzz in the valley lately around this very small startup, that has a few pretty heavy hitters. Between the four founders they have worked on nearly all of the Google products so many know and love, with the exception of search. <a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/person/paul-buchheit">Paul Bucheit</a>, is even responsible for Google&#8217;s current motto, &#8220;don&#8217;t be evil&#8221;. These four guys not only are visionaries within the web space, they also know how to deliver a product, having helped build and scale gmail and google maps is indeed a noteworthy accomplishment.</p>
<p>But what about their current task at hand, to be <a href="http://craigekerstiens.com/?p=12">web 3.0</a> and r<a href="http://craigekerstiens.com/?p=12">educe the noise of all of the web 2.0</a> tools out there. Well, first let me summarize what friendfeed does. When you sign up for friendfeed you add your web 2.0 accounts (currently supporting 35), some of note are: facebook, google talk, iLike, digg, twitter, flickr, picasa, youtube, yelp, and others. <a href="http://friendfeed.com/">Friendfeed </a>then creates a feed of you, so you can send the link to anyone and they can have a single source for updates to all of your web 2.0 interactions. <a href="http://friendfeed.com/">Friendfeed </a>does do a little more than that though, they attempt to filter out some of the noise by grouping your interactions together. For someone like Robert Scoble that on a given day could post 1000 tweets, you likely don&#8217;t want to see each one as a single line item. Friendfeed will group these and give you a short preview, then allow you to drill down.</p>
<p>All-in-all <a href="http://friendfeed.com/">friendfeed </a>is a reasonable service and will continue to be talked about in the valley for the coming year and then spread elsewhere in the world. However there are some problems with the service. First is the lag time, due to the restrictions of some of the services they connect to, sometimes your feed is twenty minutes behind your original posts/updates. Though this is no fault of their own, but nonetheless something users will not be excited over.</p>
<p>But more importantly <a href="http://friendfeed.com/">friendfeed </a>doesn&#8217;t have a concept of context. This would be my number one complaint that they&#8217;re not approaching web 3.0 yet. My most likely favorite site (well second to <a href="http://www.twitter.com">twitter</a>), which will be reviewed next week, does a great job of understanding you and your context. When it recommends something it&#8217;s doing based on your history and it&#8217;s knowledge of you, and its often right. Indeed grouping messages together does have value, but until it can show me the messages I <strong>want</strong> to see and hide the ones I do not I won&#8217;t be amazed.</p>
<p>Whether or not you should be on it strictly depends on your involvement in web 2.0 sites. If you&#8217;re on more than 5 of the sites listed in their 35, it may be a worthwhile investment. While it won&#8217;t make the noise quiet, it will likely reduce it by 10-20%, which is better than nothing.</p>
<p>Other sites to watch out for (if they ever release): <a href="http://socialthing.com/">socialthing </a></p>
<p>For those interested, <a href="http://friendfeed.com/craig081785">my friendfeed</a></p>
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